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. >> and we haven't heard a peep from john kerry and apparently he's told people don't push for him. so interesting strategy there as well. chris, ruth, thank you both. >>> also today, as the u.n. general assembly gets ready to vote on whether to upgrade palestine's status, israel says it would be a violation of their peace accords. mahmoud abbas submitted a resolution asking to be recognized as a nonmember state and it is likely to be approved with the support of several european countries. israel says it could respond by withholding money or security cooperation from the palestinian authority in the west bank. the u.s. is against recognition. at toys r us. s think you can get similar items at walmart for a lower price? i don't know. let's go see. disney princess bike -- $58. over $11 less than toys r us. wow! that's great. and assembly's free. toys r us charges 10 bucks. that's awesome! razor electric scooter. no way! it's a savings of over 30 bucks! oh -- that is awesome! on those two items -- you could save $42.98 versus toys r us. that is so good! i know! see for yourself -- bri
. >> and we haven't heard a peep from john kerry and apparently he's told people don't push for him. so interesting strategy there as well. chris, ruth, thank you both. >>> also today, as the u.n. general assembly gets ready to vote on whether to upgrade palestine's status, israel says it would be a violation of their peace accords. mahmoud abbas submitted a resolution asking to be recognized as a nonmember state and it is likely to be approved with the support of several...
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and is a former aide to john kerry told politico that kerry and george w. bush never spoke to one another after john kerry conceded the election. joining me now, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene erickson. and we have all -- i won't speak for you. i have -- i have more than once, i think, said we will keep in touch, let's keep in touch, to someone i did not then keep in touch with. i don't think i've ever been as phony about it, though, as these two guys today promising to stay in touch with each other after lunch. >> yeah. it was probably -- i've heard some people say the most awkward conversation mitt romney has had since his last conversation. you know, for what it's worth, like, i don't think that either of them really want to stay in touch. i mean, the whole thing was a sill symbolic gesture and i think we can say it is a classy move to do this. it is something that is -- it's -- even if it's purely symbolic, sometimes we need the symbolism. sometimes we need to say, especially after thanksgiving, when
and is a former aide to john kerry told politico that kerry and george w. bush never spoke to one another after john kerry conceded the election. joining me now, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene erickson. and we have all -- i won't speak for you. i have -- i have more than once, i think, said we will keep in touch, let's keep in touch, to someone i did not then keep in touch with. i don't think i've ever been as phony about it,...
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bush's victory over john kerry in 2004. [ emily jo ] derrell comes into starbucks with his wife, danielle, almost every weekend. derrell hasn't been able to visit his mom back east in a long time. [ shirley ] things are sometimes a little tight around the house. i wasn't able to go to the wedding. [ emily jo ] since derrell couldn't get home, we decided to bring home to him and then just gave him a little bit of help finding his way. ♪ [ laughs ] [ applause ] i love you. i love you, too. i love you. we are gathered here today to celebrate the union of tim and laura. it's amazing how appreciative people are when you tell them they could save a lot of money on their car insurance by switching to geico...they may even make you their best man. may i have the rings please? ah, helzberg diamonds. nice choice, mate. ...and now in the presence of these guests we join this loving couple. oh dear... geico. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. restore revive rejuvenate rebuild rebuild rebuild >>> today hostess will ask a bankruptcy judge to approve big bonuses for top executives
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kerry the senator from massachusetts had a very good week and it looks like republicans would confirm him for just about anything that the president wanted to appoint him to. >> morris, your picks. >> we'll let him appoint him to secretary of defense. my worst week is benjamin netanyahu. this guy has a real problem on his hand. you know, the u.n. situation, west bank expansion, picking the wrong guy for president. netanyahu, you've got a problem and you have to figure it out quickly. the best week for me is what i'm calling obama 2.0. the president is out there and this is new obama and gauge taking his message to the american people and strong leadership and expect more of this, more of an activist president in the next four years. >> okay. susan, how about yours? >> i think ambassador susan rice had a horrible week. not only, it started out with the best intentions going up to meet with these senators, but especially after a meeting with senator collins from maine, it just really went downhill from there and now it seems like the obama administration can sail through senator kerry,
kerry the senator from massachusetts had a very good week and it looks like republicans would confirm him for just about anything that the president wanted to appoint him to. >> morris, your picks. >> we'll let him appoint him to secretary of defense. my worst week is benjamin netanyahu. this guy has a real problem on his hand. you know, the u.n. situation, west bank expansion, picking the wrong guy for president. netanyahu, you've got a problem and you have to figure it out...
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ambassador susan rice and john kerry are rumored to be the top choices. senator john mccain, one of rice's most outspoken republican critics has been a long time friend of kerries in the senate and there was a light moment between the two at a press conference yesterday. >> i would hope our colleagues would leap at the opportunity to do that. senator mccain? >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> thank you very much, mr. president. this is what happens when you get two losers up here, folks. >> meanwhile, reports say the president is considering anna wintor, the editor in chief to "vogue" to be the ambassador to the uk or france. she was the biggest bundlers raising more than $500,000 for the obama campaign. >>> that's now your top news. you know what? >> i'm trying to breathe in and absorb the last story. all right. there is a new voice joining the immigration debate with hispanic voters overwhelmingly siding with president obama for the second straight election. the trio of latino mega donors including eva longoria are launching a new group aimed at
ambassador susan rice and john kerry are rumored to be the top choices. senator john mccain, one of rice's most outspoken republican critics has been a long time friend of kerries in the senate and there was a light moment between the two at a press conference yesterday. >> i would hope our colleagues would leap at the opportunity to do that. senator mccain? >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> thank you very much, mr. president. this is what happens when you get two...
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john kerry could serve ably in any number of positions. want to say about egypt, i don't know how much time you have, andrea, but some key egyptian national security officials are in washington now explaining egypt's recent actions. again that's a whole -- >> we were going to -- >> big pile of moves. i mean many good, some troubling, hopefully egypt and the people of egypt can find their way through this latest constitutional crisis and there can be a adopted by referendum a constitution that most of the people in egypt fear -- feel is fair. my comment there is sadly, both sides don't do politics very well. they're good at protesting and boycotting and issue decrees, they're not as good and our congress isn't so good at the moment either in working out compromises. after all, if both sides are a little unhappy it's probably the best way forward. >> jane harman, thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> up next, jazz great winston mars marsales to celebrate an important milestone. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. we've all had
john kerry could serve ably in any number of positions. want to say about egypt, i don't know how much time you have, andrea, but some key egyptian national security officials are in washington now explaining egypt's recent actions. again that's a whole -- >> we were going to -- >> big pile of moves. i mean many good, some troubling, hopefully egypt and the people of egypt can find their way through this latest constitutional crisis and there can be a adopted by referendum a...
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when john mccain lost or john kerry lost they had day jobs to go back to on the hill so thermometer automatically and instantly involved in the debate pep isn't but not showing any inclinton acceleration to be even though we're in a crisis at this moment, particularly the republican party is crying out for some sort of leadership to have somebody to move people along to a compromise. he conceivably could be that man but he seems to be very much looking intern fiscally. >> it's a small sliver of people alive that can understand exactly what the governor is going through now. but certainly not within the heightened style of election process that we go through now. one romney adviser compared romney with al gore's weight gain and beard after the election saying that most likely will not be happening in terms of letting his discipline go about his lifestyle. however, is it more a choice of romney not be involved with the republican party sore at any time fact that the roeb party has pretty much given him the heisman and pushed him away because of the comments he made since the election, doubling down
when john mccain lost or john kerry lost they had day jobs to go back to on the hill so thermometer automatically and instantly involved in the debate pep isn't but not showing any inclinton acceleration to be even though we're in a crisis at this moment, particularly the republican party is crying out for some sort of leadership to have somebody to move people along to a compromise. he conceivably could be that man but he seems to be very much looking intern fiscally. >> it's a small...
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but let me just say, john kerry, defense, bad idea. who you need in defense is someone who knows his or her way around the defense budget because there's going to be pain there. they're going to have to cut things. john kerry isn't that guy. he'd make a great secretary of state. the great thing about having panetta there is that he's an old budget guy. >> hey, i don't think panetta's leaving -- by the way, panetta's not in a hurry to leave. >> right. >> you know, he's not going to stay four years. i wouldn't be surprised if he stays almost all of the 2013 calendar year. >> here's the biggest difference between leon panetta and myself, i am very anxious to leave. >> i know you are. >> you're always anxious to leave. to take a nap. >> by the way, i have to root for alabama. this is like the hardest 40 whatever we're going to have, 35 days. to end up rooting for alabama. >> that was one of the greatest college games of all time. >> it was a fantastic game. >> and i have a real hook in for bcs tickets, chuck, if you want to talk to me late
but let me just say, john kerry, defense, bad idea. who you need in defense is someone who knows his or her way around the defense budget because there's going to be pain there. they're going to have to cut things. john kerry isn't that guy. he'd make a great secretary of state. the great thing about having panetta there is that he's an old budget guy. >> hey, i don't think panetta's leaving -- by the way, panetta's not in a hurry to leave. >> right. >> you know, he's not...
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john mccain standing behind someone like john kerry who was swift boated. >> what is that you say? threw his medaled over the fence. put him in the top diplomatic position. >> the irony, thick like a cake. we have to take a break. update about former president george h.w. bush hospitalized in houston quote, president bush has been in and out of the methodist hospital in the texas medical center treated for complications relating to his bronchitis. he's in stable condition and is expected to released within the next 72 hours. >>> coming up, president obama may be meeting with governor romney today but also hosting other special and possibly much, much smarter guests at the white house. we'll reveal the vips next. have a good night. here you go. you, too. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the
john mccain standing behind someone like john kerry who was swift boated. >> what is that you say? threw his medaled over the fence. put him in the top diplomatic position. >> the irony, thick like a cake. we have to take a break. update about former president george h.w. bush hospitalized in houston quote, president bush has been in and out of the methodist hospital in the texas medical center treated for complications relating to his bronchitis. he's in stable condition and is...
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if asked, do you think john kerry turns down that offer? >> i doubt that he would turn down that offer. everything that we're hearing is that he would be eager to serve in a second term administration. it would be being secretary of defense is one of the highest profile positions. and of course if somehow susan rice falters or isn't nominated, john kerry is there as the backup. and i will say this during the whole rice kerr flufl, john kerry has been a good soldier. he's even backed up susan rice. and he said and done all the right things. i wouldn't be surprised if the white house has also noticed that. >> it really does have to be an awkward position. all right. mark murray, thank you, sir. >>> we're watching developments in egypt, as well, where tens of thousands of protesters have been jamming cairo's tahrir square for hours now. they denouncing president morsi and that draft constitution his islamic allies approved early today. james maceda joining me live. it appears reminiscent of the scene two years ago. >> reporter: you're right. a
if asked, do you think john kerry turns down that offer? >> i doubt that he would turn down that offer. everything that we're hearing is that he would be eager to serve in a second term administration. it would be being secretary of defense is one of the highest profile positions. and of course if somehow susan rice falters or isn't nominated, john kerry is there as the backup. and i will say this during the whole rice kerr flufl, john kerry has been a good soldier. he's even backed up...
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george bush didn't do this with john kerry in 2004. it is a grace note. >> is that ir a chance that mitt romney might contribute to this administration for the good of the country when it comes to business? he obviously made it very clear that he didn't think that president obama knew anything about business or the economy. he was the expert. so why not help out? >> i wouldn't make him treasury secretary. you wouldn't want to have that tax plan put into effect. >> he could be in charge of building new business or something. >> look, it's -- this is a moment when american democracy functions. it's rare, as i said before, that presidents do this or that the winning candidate does this. there is the iconic picture of kennedy and nixon in 1960 when nixon went to visit the preelect. more common is what happened with franklin roosevelt who is sitting in the car with herbert hoover. he is glowering. he won't speak to roosevelt. roosevelt points up at the steel on the commerce department building and says, isn't that a remarkable superstructur
george bush didn't do this with john kerry in 2004. it is a grace note. >> is that ir a chance that mitt romney might contribute to this administration for the good of the country when it comes to business? he obviously made it very clear that he didn't think that president obama knew anything about business or the economy. he was the expert. so why not help out? >> i wouldn't make him treasury secretary. you wouldn't want to have that tax plan put into effect. >> he could be...
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. >>> things may be tense between senator mccain and john kerry but they were able to liten the mood as mccain joked by kerry's nomination to an obama cabinet. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> you didn't hear the joke. he called him mr. secretary. it didn't take long for kerry to give as good as he got. >> tnk you very much mr. president. this is what happens when you get too losers. >> you don't see that very often. that's your morning ditch of "scrambled politics." >> along with continuing worry about the fiscal cliff, stocks fell monday after disappointing manufacturing numbers which sh rufr shrunk to the lowest levels in three years. shopaholics drop an average of $263 a month in washington, d.c. that's more than anywhere else in the country. >>> andrew zimmer, the host of bizarre foods on the travel channel is blasting yelp.com. he says reviews of restaurants and other businesses should be left to the pros. he claims too many people abuse the site and try to blackmail the merchants they're commenting on. >>> trial began monday in italy for superstar fashion designers. t
. >>> things may be tense between senator mccain and john kerry but they were able to liten the mood as mccain joked by kerry's nomination to an obama cabinet. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> you didn't hear the joke. he called him mr. secretary. it didn't take long for kerry to give as good as he got. >> tnk you very much mr. president. this is what happens when you get too losers. >> you don't see that very often. that's your morning ditch of...
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there's growing speculation he'll run if john kerry steps down to take an obama cabinet position. >>> another day, another republican jumping ship from grover norquist and his anti-tax pledge. this time it's new york congressman chris gibson who said that because of redistricting, he figures the pledge only applies to the area he was serving before. >>> and this was the photo op of the day. of course, vice president joe biden, he was shopping at the new costco in washington, d.c. he munched on some cookie samples, bought children's books, a tv set and apple pie. >>> remember this guy? the one who vowed to keep his romney/ryan campaign tattoo dispute the election results? reality has apparently caught up with him, and it's coming off soon. and that's your dish of "scrambled politics." >>> another day of fiscal cliff drama. stocks reversed early gains and fell shortly after house speaker john boehner dashed hopes that lawmakers were getting closer to agreeing on a year-end budget deal. but all three major markets did bounce back by the afternoon. >>> economic data was positive thursday,
there's growing speculation he'll run if john kerry steps down to take an obama cabinet position. >>> another day, another republican jumping ship from grover norquist and his anti-tax pledge. this time it's new york congressman chris gibson who said that because of redistricting, he figures the pledge only applies to the area he was serving before. >>> and this was the photo op of the day. of course, vice president joe biden, he was shopping at the new costco in washington,...
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she says she would much prefer senator john kerry for that job. because, yeah, he's never been a politician. or presumably, she's still okay with the current secretary of state, hillary clinton. it's not like she's ever run for anything. you know, obviously she's never been on a sunday show. if she had been on a sunday show, she'd ever gone on a sunday show, that obviously would have disqualified her from becoming secretary of state. that would show her to be behaving in a political fashion. everybody knows the secretary of state cannot do anything political. seriously? there is a mismatch between the seriousness of the things that we actually need to get done as a nation and the quality of the system in washington that is the means by which we must get those things done. syria is not our war, and syria is not going to be our war. but there are tens of thousands of people dead there already. and the regime there appears to have just turned off the lights, pulled the plug, disconnected that country entirely from the eyes of the world. what are we g
she says she would much prefer senator john kerry for that job. because, yeah, he's never been a politician. or presumably, she's still okay with the current secretary of state, hillary clinton. it's not like she's ever run for anything. you know, obviously she's never been on a sunday show. if she had been on a sunday show, she'd ever gone on a sunday show, that obviously would have disqualified her from becoming secretary of state. that would show her to be behaving in a political fashion....
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and let's face it after all the talk that we heard this week, john kerry can sail into that and it's not a political fight that the president has to have. >> how does it play out, really quickly? do you think the president ends up nominating her? >> i i'm not sure, i think kerry is an easier track for the president, i think he likes susan rice, she has done a good job and she has been treated unfairly. >> appreciate you both coming on. coming up, msnbc's richard lui travelled to haiti, sat down with former president jimmy carter and about middle east peace. >>> first we flash back to a time that communism was everywhere, or so some thought. you're watching msnbc. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance
and let's face it after all the talk that we heard this week, john kerry can sail into that and it's not a political fight that the president has to have. >> how does it play out, really quickly? do you think the president ends up nominating her? >> i i'm not sure, i think kerry is an easier track for the president, i think he likes susan rice, she has done a good job and she has been treated unfairly. >> appreciate you both coming on. coming up, msnbc's richard lui travelled...
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and john kerry was leading it on the floor with john mccain. it was one of those bipartisan coalitions of veterans, wounded veterans, mccain and others, and the wounded warriors. the chamber of commerce. this is basically to take the american standard that bush 41 passed. it was his bill. >> george bush. >> george bush 41's bill spread it to the rest of the world. his son, george w., approved this treaty. it was sent up by president obama in '09, the senate foreign relations committee passed it easily, and then these republicans abandoned it on the floor. people are crying on the senate floor. >> john mccain gave such a passionate speech. so you have, mike barnicle, american hero, war veteran, john mccain, talking about how we help the disabled across the world with weeping american heroes who were wounded in war, watching. you have the standard set by one republican president. the treaty drawn up by another republican president, george w. bush. and voted down with bob dole yet another american hero, war hero, watching. i'm actually dumbfounded
and john kerry was leading it on the floor with john mccain. it was one of those bipartisan coalitions of veterans, wounded veterans, mccain and others, and the wounded warriors. the chamber of commerce. this is basically to take the american standard that bush 41 passed. it was his bill. >> george bush. >> george bush 41's bill spread it to the rest of the world. his son, george w., approved this treaty. it was sent up by president obama in '09, the senate foreign relations...
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kerry to john edwards, all of them, they all played for their plan with this simple phrase, "rolling back the bush tax cuts." they've been doing it for eight years. so politically, that's why the president has to draw that line in the sand. >> he draws that line in the sand, but harold ford, what happens when republicans, at least a small number of them, go ahead and raise taxes on the top 2% and then turn to the white house and say, okay. now we'll move. and then they have to talk about how they're going to slash spending in medicare, to save medicare, how they'll have to slash spending in medicaid to save medicaid. their political problem on the other side of this tax debate is so much bigger than the republican problem. they're being too clever by half here. >> both sides have complicated hands. and if the democrats, we achieve what the president and some democrats in the senate are asking for in a narrow way around taxes, you're absolutely right. just as an aside on the bush era, this is the first time we didn't go to war where we didn't pay for it. some of the things the democra
kerry to john edwards, all of them, they all played for their plan with this simple phrase, "rolling back the bush tax cuts." they've been doing it for eight years. so politically, that's why the president has to draw that line in the sand. >> he draws that line in the sand, but harold ford, what happens when republicans, at least a small number of them, go ahead and raise taxes on the top 2% and then turn to the white house and say, okay. now we'll move. and then they have to...
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what also seems tor clear here is there's an incentive to make sure it's john kerry so scott brown has one more bite at the apple. but i do think it would be better esthetics if the next time they are going to attack a member of the administration, they actually showed they weren't fixated on black appointees. one after the other, they seem more comfortable to attack black appointe appointees. that's a big concern for people across the country. >> what about the president though? he clearly is backing susan rice. but is this a fight worth having? i mean -- >> this is a man who has won office, who is not going to be on the ballot again. he said i'm going to back the people who i think can do the best job. if you have an issue with my general because he was talking to this socialite in florida, forget about it. that's not what the war is about. let the man do the job. if rice came on and did what the cia told her to do, that's pretty much what any senator would do too. so this is a nonissue. >> i hope no one takes their eye off the ball, which is going after the people that committed thi
what also seems tor clear here is there's an incentive to make sure it's john kerry so scott brown has one more bite at the apple. but i do think it would be better esthetics if the next time they are going to attack a member of the administration, they actually showed they weren't fixated on black appointees. one after the other, they seem more comfortable to attack black appointe appointees. that's a big concern for people across the country. >> what about the president though? he...
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john kerry has been campaigning hard for it. he's done everything this administration has asked in their first term. overseas, been quite engaged as chairman of the foreign relations committee. so he's certainly a very strong candidate. but at this point, even people close to the president suggest there's just a bit of a question mark about how much of a fight he wants and how much it will come down to getting somebody he believes in and he's close to into that job. >> congressman cleaver, your thoughts on susan rice as a potential nominee. >> well, i think susan rice is imminently qualified and capable of being secretary of state. my only concern is political, and it is that the president uses up so much of his good will as he begins his second term that it does not last long enough for him to get through some of the major initiatives that we all hope will be brought forth like an energy policy. there are some -- there are dangers either way, if he goes with kerry, there is a political concern about the seat in massachusetts. s
john kerry has been campaigning hard for it. he's done everything this administration has asked in their first term. overseas, been quite engaged as chairman of the foreign relations committee. so he's certainly a very strong candidate. but at this point, even people close to the president suggest there's just a bit of a question mark about how much of a fight he wants and how much it will come down to getting somebody he believes in and he's close to into that job. >> congressman...